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How can you make a difference when your superpower in Law Enforcement is – connecting people?
Retired Sergeant and Crisis Negotiator Tim Hunter stops by to visit with The Crisis Cop, Pat Doering, to share perspectives from his 30+year career that continues to help craft the future of Crisis Negotiation around the globe.
Ready to learn how connecting people isn’t just a superpower, but an essential element in the chemistry set of crisis negotiation success? It’s all here and more inside this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast
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Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast:
00:00 Tim’s journey in law enforcement and retirement
05:24 Larry’s Intense Hostage Negotiation Story
07:53 Coordinating international conference speakers
10:11 Intense training, evaluations, and student dropouts
14:45 Importance of practicing active listening skills
19:09 Emphasis on tactical operations in policing
20:34 Negotiation during a critical incident
27:00 Supportive team check-ins and debriefs
30:26 Police standoff experiences and outcomes
33:50 Locating and apprehending suspect with SWAT team
35:42 Supporting each other after tragedy
38:43 Maintaining Humor in Law Enforcement
41:35 Preparing for future crisis negotiations
47:34 Networking in crisis negotiations field
48:26 Closing the Crisis Cop podcast episode
Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk:
- The conversation focused on the transition from being a “good talker” to a “good listener” in crisis negotiation. How does this shift in skillset impact the effectiveness of a negotiator?
- One concept discussed was the importance of mentors in law enforcement. How did mentorship influence the careers and approaches of the negotiators highlighted in this episode?
- A key theme that emerged was the challenges and benefits of international training, such as the course in Manchester. How do international approaches to negotiation training differ, and what can American negotiators learn from them?
- The discussion explored the role of networking and interpersonal connections in advancing one’s career in crisis negotiation. What are some ways in which these relationships can open up professional opportunities?
- Several points were raised, including the importance of active listening and stepping out of the traditional law enforcement “problem-solving” mindset. In what ways does active listening change the outcome of crisis situations?
- The episode addressed preparing for language and cultural barriers in negotiation scenarios. What strategies can teams implement to ensure they are ready for situations where language is an obstacle?
- The conversation focused on the relationship between tactical units and negotiators. What are some of the challenges in harmonizing their efforts, and what practices can help bridge the gap between these teams?
- A key theme that emerged was the evolution of peer support and mental health awareness within law enforcement agencies. How have attitudes towards mental health support changed, and what further improvements could be made?
- The discussion explored handling the aftermath of traumatic incidents, including critical incident stress debriefs. How effective are these debriefs in supporting officer wellbeing, and what could enhance their effectiveness?
- Several points were raised about the significance of legacy and the contributions an individual makes beyond their personal callouts. How can negotiators positively shape the future of their field through training, mentorship, and organizational change?
Links from this Episode:
— Get All of Pat’s Books via Amazon Now!
– Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America
– Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation
– Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area
- 2GuysTalking Podcast Network
- Link to the Network’s homepage to provide listeners with more background.
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- Books & Training Materials
- Compliance Surrender by Geno Dorough – Retired Crisis Negotiator: The foundational book on negotiation tactics – find it on Amazon or inquire to the hosts for a fair price.
- Pat Doering – CrisisCop.Com’s newest negotiation book: For more content and practical advice, reach out via the podcast or website.
Relevant Techniques & Philosophies
- The “Four Rs” of Negotiation: Recognize, Respect, Reduce, and Remove barriers – as discussed by Geno Dorough – Retired Crisis Negotiator
- Active Listening Skills: Essential for both negotiations and day-to-day policing – and featured throughout the episode.
- Professional Communication in Law Enforcement: Why avoiding yelling and profanity matters for de-escalation and public image.
Topics Covered in This Episode
- The evolution of crisis negotiation in police work and CIT (Crisis Intervention Team) training.
- Handling emotionally charged situations, and the effects of PTSD in law enforcement.
- Building trust and rapport—even through difficult or traumatic incidents.
- Why mentorship matters: Advice for new negotiators from Pat Doering – CrisisCop.Com and Meghan Taft – Limited License Psychologist & Crisis Negotiator.
- The importance of preserving dignity and respecting emotional barriers during crisis calls.
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The Host of this Program:
Pat Doering
Pat Doering began his career as a police officer in 1996 and has served as a Police Hostage Negotiator since 2004. He has received formal negotiation training from the FBI, the London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard), and the Negotiation Program at Harvard University. As a graduate of the FBI National Academy (Class 248), Pat continues to provide guidance, formal training, and leadership mentoring worldwide.
In 2024, Pat retired from his law enforcement career but remains dedicated to fostering the next generation of Crisis Negotiators. He conducts live, on-site training events and online workshops designed to sharpen the skills of those interested in crisis negotiation.
“My goal is to share the knowledge and experience I’ve gained throughout my career in high-stakes situations. My speeches will help you become a better communicator and listener. I am committed to teaching and training the future of crisis negotiations.”
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The Guest Featured Inside this Program:
Tim Hunter:
Tim Hunter is a retired law enforcement professional and veteran crisis negotiator from the Sacramento, California area whose career has been defined by leadership, communication, and the peaceful resolution of high-risk incidents. Throughout his years in public safety, he developed extensive experience managing hostage situations, barricaded subjects, suicidal crises, and other critical incidents where patience, trust, and strategic negotiation were essential to successful outcomes.
Over the course of his career, Tim served in a variety of leadership and instructional roles, helping to shape crisis negotiation programs while mentoring the next generation of negotiators. He has been actively involved in training law enforcement personnel in negotiation tactics, crisis communication, and incident management, emphasizing the value of empathy, active listening, and behavioral influence during volatile encounters. His work has also included collaboration with tactical teams, command staff, and behavioral health professionals to improve multidisciplinary crisis response.
Beyond his operational experience, Tim has become a respected educator and speaker within the crisis negotiation community, sharing lessons learned from real-world incidents and decades of practical experience. His presentations focus on strengthening negotiation capabilities, improving team performance, and preparing responders to make sound decisions under extraordinary pressure.
Known for his calm demeanor, thoughtful leadership, and commitment to continuous learning, Tim Hunter continues to contribute to the advancement of crisis negotiation by mentoring professionals, teaching across the country, and promoting best practices that prioritize the preservation of life during critical incidents.
The Producer of this Program:
Mike Wilkerson:
Mike Wilkerson Is the PodFather of St. Louis, and has been hosting, producing, concepting and enhancing podcasts since 2005. As a professional content creator, Mike has been making and documenting every mistake in the Podcasting industry so you won’t have to when you’re ready to begin. With thousands of of hours of business, marketing and life experience behind and in front of the mic and keyboard, he has created a vibrant and always-growing business tapestry via The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network.
As a perpetual student, Mike continues to foster interests in Crisis Negotiator Training, Firearms Instruction and helping people to find the next step in their career with an active interest in hunting light bulb moments.
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